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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:03 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:37 pm 
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Canux Luvah and I are going back and forth on Myers. I've never liked him at all as a player so I'm probably biased, but I still think it was a horrid signing of a thoroughly mediocre player. I just don't think barely clearing a low bar counts as a good move, especially as that contract could age very, very badly.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:53 pm 
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Canux Luvah and I are going back and forth on Myers. I've never liked him at all as a player so I'm probably biased, but I still think it was a horrid signing of a thoroughly mediocre player. I just don't think barely clearing a low bar counts as a good move, especially as that contract could age very, very badly.
Guess we'll see. It's more the 5 year term that bothers me, but our bar is pretty low - he's better than Guddy. Hutton really faded down the stretch when given big minutes and is at best a bottom pairing guy. Like way more mediocre than Myers with no offensive upside and Myers is the much better skater.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:59 pm 
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Pokecheque wrote:
Canux Luvah and I are going back and forth on Myers. I've never liked him at all as a player so I'm probably biased, but I still think it was a horrid signing of a thoroughly mediocre player. I just don't think barely clearing a low bar counts as a good move, especially as that contract could age very, very badly.

It's entirely par for the Benning course that he would overpay for a #5 defenseman (on a good team) and I'm hopeful that he'll be good enough on this team to outplay one of Stetcher or Tanev on the right side. Hughes is such a good skater and puck handler that there's been some noise that he could also play that right side in a pinch but I don't think anyone wants to see a rookie in that position on this team. Time will tell if Benning has done enough to re-build this team that the warts he's paid for can be covered up by enough expensive make-up.
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Del Zotto, Hutton, Gudbranson, & Poulliot
Dorsett, Gagner, Gaunce, Granlund, Leipsic, & Spooner

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Hughes, Benn, Myers, & Fantenberg
Ferland, Leivo, Miller, & Pearson

EDIT: As of today, CapFriendly says that they are at 45/50 contracts, with just over $5M left to sign Boeser and Goldy. :shock: So perhaps there's merit in the rumors of moving that Eriksson contract off the books. Personally, I think they ought to move on from Goldy as a sunk cost...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:19 pm 
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EDIT: As of today, CapFriendly says that they are at 45/50 contracts, with just over $5M left to sign Boeser and Goldy. :shock: So perhaps there's merit in the rumors of moving that Eriksson contract off the books. Personally, I think they ought to move on from Goldy as a sunk cost...
Agreed re: Goldy. Don't think he makes the team as it stands in any event. And that means waivers.

Re: moving Eriksson contract off the books, do you mean via buyout?

Baertschi's health worries me. Wondering if they are trying to move him as well.

Canucks also add to front office and hire Ryan Biech from Canucks Army in the role of Video Analyst, Hockey Analytics. Nice move.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:17 pm 
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I think once they've paid Eriksson his bonus on July 1 ($4M), his base salary is only $1M per season, so it's conceivable that they could offload him while retaining some part of his salary, if needed, to make it work for the other team. Making the roster spot available for one of the young guys (Gaudette, MacEwen) and whatever they can save in cap space may be worth the headache. I'd like to see them move his or Sutter's contract.

I think GMJB is hopeful that they can get something for Goldy, otherwise, why qualify him at all? Perhaps they are thinking that they may be able to bump up his value at the beginning of the year by playing him with Boeser and Petterson, but long-term, I think Green has pretty much squeezed as much value out of Goldy as we've seen. They may be waiting until after training camp to see how this shakes out and if anyone else (MacEwen, Gadjovich) outplays him for his roster spot.

I'd rather they keep Baertschi; his health is a concern but he's shown some chemistry with Horvat and perhaps aligned with Ferland or Pearson to start the season, they can gel as a line.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:14 pm 
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Buyout window is closed now, you can't pay out a bonus and then buy out the remainder of the contract. They would've had to do so on June 15th.

It would've been an expensive option anyway since the cap hit the first two years would've been well over $5 million, and then in year three drops to just over 3, but then that's precisely when Pettersson is up for a new deal.

But, once again, Benning has an option in front of him and does nothing, leaving him with fewer as he lets this situation drag on and on. He'll probably have to flip a fairly valuable asset in order to sucker someone into taking that deal.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:22 pm 
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But, once again, Benning has an option in front of him and does nothing, leaving him with fewer as he lets this situation drag on and on. He'll probably have to flip a fairly valuable asset in order to sucker someone into taking that deal.
He's already stated on the record that he doesn't want to add an asset, or at the very least a roster player. :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:27 pm 
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He's already stated on the record that he doesn't want to add an asset, or at the very least a roster player. :roll:


Well, then I guess we'll see who blinks first between Benning and Boeser.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:32 pm 
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To answer your question re: Eriksson & Benning - yes they've talked. Heard JP Barrie on TSN and by the sounds of it the Eriksson camp are now "working together" with Canuck management towards a resolution to get him out of Vancouver. The days of submitting a trade request and waiting on management to strike a deal are long gone so reading between the lines, the Canucks brass waited far too long to address after Eriksson's comments about Green.


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https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/canucks ... n-contract

"Nobody will be lining up for Eriksson at any dollar value if he’s no better than a fourth-line forward. And given the team trading for him knows they’d be doing the Canucks a huge favour, there’s no way Benning is offloading him for free."

So, while it's fun and easy to say, "Dump Eriksson, NOW!" No one will do it for free, especially if there's limited on ice value in him to begin with...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:52 pm 
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Nice write-up here... https://canucksarmy.com/2019/07/16/canu ... ransition/

Now with Botch gone, I've decided to not renew my Athletic sub... Harman Dayal is good, and Wyatt Arndt is ok, but not worth the annual sub...


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Brandon Sutter have anything left in the tank?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:47 am 
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Brandon Sutter have anything left in the tank?
Good on the PK and defensive zone starts so there is some perceived value there but would need to play limited minutes and with zero offensive upside like ever, he is on the wrong side of 30. I suppose the "Sutter" name carries some value if that's of any value at all.


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Logical Progression wrote:
E.L. wrote:
Brandon Sutter have anything left in the tank?
Good on the PK and defensive zone starts so there is some perceived value there but would need to play limited minutes and with zero offensive upside like ever, he is on the wrong side of 30. I suppose the "Sutter" name carries some value if that's of any value at all.


I ask because I do think Bergevin would be swayed by the Sutter brand, and he's got cap space to burn. Habs could always use right handed faceoff help, but a zero offence guy is too much of a liability 5x5. Then again, if Benning is feeling a budgetary squeeze he's certainly not showing it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:22 pm 
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I think Bergevin could get Sutter on the cheap if he wanted; there's still Boeser to re-resign. With Beagle (righty) in the fold and Horvat being a lefty, Sutter is a luxury. JT Miller and Gaudette could fill-in at 3C, in case of injury to either Horvat or Beagle.

I think Sutter still has something left, certainly has something to prove. He's still a better than average PKer (elite was one view I read recently), and perhaps with a better wingers should contribute more.


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