saskhab wrote:
Chris18 wrote:
I don't watch the Caps. Does he know where the D-zone is yet?
Not sure any of Bossy, Gretzky, Dionne, Lafleur or Mario knew were the D-zone was, either.
Not bothering to check on the others, but besides Bossy's last year when he was really too hurt to be playing (-8 that year), Bossy's lowest +/- was a +27, with several years in the +60s. Sure he played with Trottier, but at least their line was doing their job in both zones, and 5 on 5. Unless +/- was calculated differently back then?
Okay I looked. Gretzky had quite a few - years. Lemieux as well, but I'll also cut him some slack for his ailing back & other health issues (even though he was always an asshole). Dionne had a few, but was mostly a +, and some high numbers. Same with Lafleur. This doesn't tell what they actually did in the D-zone, but they sure put up more than they allowed. So someone on their lines were playing D. Ovi's +/- numbers aren't as bad as I'd thought (besides last year!), but he's just had so many goals against where he was coasting back in the neutral zone watching. I think it's more his "not my problem" attitude that I have an issue with.
And I'm well aware that Tavares has been a - in all his years with the Isles. He was a -2 when Okposo got hurt, went up to +6 during Okposo's injury time, and is -2 again now with Okposo back. For as good as Okposo is, he seems to have trouble getting the puck out of the D-zone when he gets it at the point. Not trying to make this about the Isles, but I figured someone would throw that at me, so I'm being preemptively defensive. Arguing from the D-zone.