Fogghorn wrote:
Logical Progression wrote:
Bosc wrote:
saskhab wrote:
I'm sorry, there's no way that's true about bills to pay unless he's struggling in areas outside the Canucks. He's had plenty of playoff revenue, just did a 50000 attendance game, sells out every night with high prices, got a 7% cap reduction, huge new TV deal money coming in... I get that playoff revenue is very valuable, but come on, they can't be in the game to have to guarantee playoff revenue every year or bust.
Teams only get their normal gate/concession revenues from the "outdoor" events. The rest goes to the NHL revenue pool, I believe. But your point stands. They can't be hurting for playoff dough.
Point taken, but both statements are far too polarizing. It's not playoff revenue or bust and there is a difference between hurting for playoff dough and running a successful business and being committed to winning. I just can't see them throwing in the towel on the season despite this being the most pragmatic strategy from outside. Rebuilds alienate the average fan and cost money too. Playoffs are good for the brand. My point was that these factors could it impact a trade that could be made off season with ownership involved. My sense is that Aquilini loves the game but at the end of the day treats this as any successful business. And everyone knows Aquilini is a hands on owner. It wouldn't surprise me one bit in view of the rebuild coming. It's such a mess. You gotta wonder what the hell is going to happen with Gilles in the off season and hence Torts. It seems there are a lot more riding on the next 18 games than a "blow it up, rebuild and we'll get 'em in future years" mind set. I could be wrong though. Always being right is totally overrated.
This is the confusing part, if they wanted to make the playoffs then I'd expect to see Jensen called up instead of Archibald, he's been playing really well and can score goals. And if they were really concerned about making the playoffs I'd also think that Lui would have been their go to guy but they traded him in favour of an untested rookie. Or they could have gone after Vanek or Hemsky which were relatively cheap options. Plus the schedule is so, so, so very soft from here on out that making the playoffs is still possible. However they have not done any of those things which would indicate to me they are not focused on making the playoffs.
I'm fine with that. Reload, reset, rebuild, whatever. But if that's what they're going to do then move some people, no more of the 'stay still gill' show but they didn't do that either. That confuses me as to whether they have a direction, and I've had that feeling since the 2010 run. Gillis saying way back then that they did not need to get bigger to play in the playoffs then drafting much bigger players. End of last season saying they were going to 'reset' the team and yet all he did was trade coaches with NY and trade Schneider for a pick and when questioned about it at the beginning of the season claiming that the coach change was the reset. Hell even the lie he made this week regarding sitting Lui for the Heritage classic because he had a trade in the works. The agent, Talon and Torts have all denied this to be true.
He's willing to lie to the fans to cover his ass and for a long time seems to be meandering along switching streams on organizational philosophy whenever something looks more interesting. I get that he has a difficult job and that I probably don't know about 90%+ of the relevant issues but I don't need to be lied to and I would think after a few years since the cup run I would be able to perceive some sense of purpose in direction. That's not too much to ask is it?
Oh god -100% agree. There is no plan. As you say they are "meandering along switching streams on organizational philosophy whenever something looks more interesting". Regarding the playoffs: not one single decision (or non-decision) Gilles has made this year has suggested that they have a fucking clue what they are doing with this team. "Of course every decision we make is with the expectation to be in the playoffs".
There hasn't been a plan since Gilles got resigned on the heels of the Cup run. He is making it up as he goes along.
Regarding the Archibald call up. This has Torts written all over it. Gilles: "We are a collective and collaborate on all hockey related issues". But we all know Torts is hell bent on sticking with his antiquated fucking d-type system and loves big bodies and checker types. "The offence will come" - bullshit.
The Torts hiring was an unmitigated disaster. Wrong coach, wrong team. He burned them out and when injuries mounted, he explained away as a turn of events, the likes of which nobody has ever seen before. Umm okay....? His system does nothing to facilitate offence. He is coaching them outdated playoff system but when you team can't even get into the fucking playoffs, something's amiss. The Sedins haven't scored A SINGLE GOAL THIS ENTIRE YEAR! Burrows may never score a goal again in his ENTIRE LIFE.
I was a big supporter of Torts when he first arrived despite being somewhat miffed by passing on Lindy Ruff. But Torts has to go. He hasn't evolved as a person nor a hockey mind. He is in year 1 of his 4 year contract. Is he the appropriate coach for a rebuild? Something's not quite right in this pool of decision making.
Also how does Gilles expect to rebuild the team around the Sedins? The have brand new contracts and NTC's up the ying yang. But would it be fair to them to keep around for a total rebuild? Would they even want this? Veteran leadership I guess. I don't think Gilles even has a plan and is just making it up as he goes along. The demand for a rebuild came much sooner than anyone expected.
The Heritage Classic was an unmitigated PR disaster and Torts decision to start Lack facilitated the Luongo trade. Gilles publicly refutes the timeline of the proceedings when both player agent and player confirm this was never the case.
Gilles trades Schneider and Luongo for the future Horvat etc. yet sign the Sedins this year? The Kesler situation was just weird and sort of came out of the blue. Speculation is that the asking price kept changing right up to the trade deadline. Duthie reports that Anaheim made the most serious run for him but fell short and didn't have time to make contingency plans.
Attendance is down. Nobody wants to admit it but it's true.
Good luck Gilles.