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 Post subject: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:54 am 
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They've already used 5 goalies this year, somehow. Hextall should've just put himself in nets.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:17 pm 
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Does not feel that long but he had 5 off seasons to put the team together.


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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Hounsy wrote:
Does not feel that long but he had 5 off seasons to put the team together.


I sometimes forget the Flyers exist.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:13 pm 
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E.L. wrote:
Hounsy wrote:
Does not feel that long but he had 5 off seasons to put the team together.
I sometimes forget the Flyers exist.
Yes exactly. But unfortunately we now have Gritty to remind us..


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:53 pm 
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This piece filed just yesterday by Charlie O'Connor seems somewhat prophetic now.

https://theathletic.com/675036/2018/11/ ... e-anymore/

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Hextall and the rest of the front office surely want to win. But simply sitting back and waiting for problems to resolve themselves over a larger sample size just isn’t going to cut it for this fanbase anymore. They need to be shown that the decision-makers in the organization agree that these recent results are unacceptable. Something needs to happen.

If the Flyers let every day turn into what Sunday was, I suspect they’ll find that even when the team does eventually get going, an essential part of the Philadelphia Flyers was irretrievably lost along the way. It’s not merely a season in the balance here. It’s the way that the Philadelphia sports scene views a proud organization.


DID NOT see Hextall being the first GM fired this season, and I absolutely did not see him not outlasting Dave Hakstol. Now that nice little tongue-twister is no more.

On one hand, as Sam Carchidi just posted, Hextall did a fantastic job getting the team out of the cap hell his boss, Paul Holmgren, created. How Holmgren earned a promotion (and not the "promotion" other GMs like Rutherford and Francis got in Carolina, an actual promotion) after his horrible tenure defies explanation. He also did what other Flyers GMs were unable and/or unwilling to do, and that's build from within, patiently. He also rebuilt what was a flagging farm system.

On the OTHER hand, he failed miserably to fix what is the most ridiculous goaltending situation in the league, reportedly refused to fire a coaching staff that simply isn't getting the job done (especially beguiling that Ian Laperriere has shepherded one of the worst PK units in the league and yet hasn't gone anywhere...sorry Lappy, I love ya but...), and just seemed...indecisive at many junctures.

I gotta admit, I missed crazy Philly. No other club was as good at making transaction headlines on a yearly basis than they were. But Flyboys fans shouldn't complain if, once again, they hand another club key pieces to a Stanley Cup run because they got too impatient.


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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Logical Progression wrote:
Yes exactly. But unfortunately we now have Gritty to remind us..


Hey now, Gritty's the best Flyers mascot since Bobby Clarke. He rules.


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:44 pm 
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Hey Flyers, there's another former Flyer goalie with some GM experience looking for another job... He could be there in like 3 hours...

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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I guess the rule in sports is this: Either be really, really bad, or be really, really good. Mediocrity is the most unpalatable thing a team can give its fans.


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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Pokecheque wrote:
Logical Progression wrote:
Yes exactly. But unfortunately we now have Gritty to remind us..
Hey now, Gritty's the best Flyers mascot since Bobby Clarke. He rules.
TSN just reported that Gritty just admitted himself into mascot rehab, you know the same one as the Chicken and Philly Phanatic. Truly hope he gets the help he needs. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:38 pm 
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Fucking Holmgren talked about being aggressive while Hextall was passive.

Aggressive signs Chris Pronger to a fucking 7-year back-diving 35+ year contract because he just seems to think that the 35+ penalty(like most penalties to Pronger) wouldn't apply. Back diving, as in, you know, getting him to retire early. On a 35+ contract. Where the cap hit stays if he retires.

He talked about fixing the goaltending. Holmgren, as in the guy who moved out Richards and Carter to make room for quite possibly the worst marriage of a goalie personality and team, Bryzgalov in Philly(and I say that as someone who legitimately liked Bryzgalov), who ended up costing Philly $40M for 2 years.

Yeah, that's the fucking guy that you need making roster decisions. Aggressively.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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Ass. GM Chris Pryor and Ass. coach Gord Murphy also fired.

Beat guy was basically saying Hextall was the equivalent of an angry teenager stomping into his room and shutting the door: basically refused to tell ownership and Holmgren what he was doing and whether any moves were forthcoming.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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E.L. wrote:
Ass. GM Chris Pryor and Ass. coach Gord Murphy also fired.

Beat guy was basically saying Hextall was the equivalent of an angry teenager stomping into his room and shutting the door: basically refused to tell ownership and Holmgren what he was doing and whether any moves were forthcoming.


Now THAT's the Hextall we are accustomed to. Keeping you on your toes, never knowing when or what the fuck he was going to go.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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My boy Picks got waived too. :cry:

Man, he comes up with a great fan contest for his mask after he gets drafted by Vegas, then promptly gets waived, sent down, and traded to Toronto. Then he heads to Philly (via waivers) and gets an awesome mask celebrating the only good thing going for the Flyboys: Gritty. Now he gets the boot again. I guess dude needs to not go to so much effort next time when it comes to his headgear decor.

Mind you, in between Vegas and Philly he won himself a Calder Cup working for our favorite Pink Pantser, but I wish he'd get that backup gig in the NHL and run with it.


As for the Flyers themselves, as Corey Snajder just pointed out on Twitter, it's one hell of a troll job by Philly to fire everyone except the two guys the fans wanted fired. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:55 am 
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The Hextall stories from his Islanders days involved him always letting everyone know exactly what he thought.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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The stories I've read are that he's a very friendly, congenial guy...right up until gameday. Then, you speak to him at your own peril.


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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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Pokecheque wrote:
The stories I've read are that he's a very friendly, congenial guy...right up until gameday. Then, you speak to him at your own peril.


Met him a few times getting autographs when I was a kid and he was, for what it's worth.

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 Post subject: Re: Hextall fired
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I'm reading they've begun the search in earnest. According to the article I'm reading on The Athletic, the initial list is:

Steve Greeley (Buffalo AGM)
Dave Nonis :lol: (advisor in Anaheim)
Ron Francis*
Bill Zito (Columbus AGM...these guys are always seemingly super-popular)

And the odds-on favorite right now, former Wild and Crazy GM Chuck Fletcher.

*NOTE: According to an interview Ronnie Franchise did on NHL Radio as he helps prepare Team Canada for the WJC, he's still getting a paycheck from the Canes and also still has a minor stake in the franchise that was not bought up when Karmanos sold to Dundon, so both of those things kinda complicate any potential hire.

Fletcher could be a pretty decent hire, but maybe not. He'll have a lot more pieces to put in play than he did during his tenure in Minnesota, and hey, say what you will about the guy but he solved the Wylde's goaltending situation pretty respectably.

I'm kinda/sorta rooting for Nonis to get the gig though, because, to quote the Dark Knight, I just wanna see the world burn. :laugh: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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