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 Post subject: Good article on Ehrhoff
PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:58 pm 
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From the brainy guys at CanucksArmy, pointing out how good he's been this season, and how dumb it is he won't be recognized for it because the NHL's awards voters are, as always, kind of stupid about cause and effect.

http://canucksarmy.com/2013/4/16/former ... the-norris

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The prerequisite of "playing on a team that makes the playoffs" is kind of like "wins" for a pitcher in baseball. A pitchers record used to be a critical component in Cy Young voting even though the amount of run support a pitcher recieves is entirely beyond his control in the American league. Eventually the sabremetric crowd won the long argument, culminating in Felix Hernandez being rightly named the best pitcher in the American League for a season in which he went 13-12. Seriously: Christian Ehrhoff this season is pretty much the hockey equivalent of an ace going .500 because he plays for a totally hapless offensive team...

For now the Norris is supposed to be awarded to the "defense player who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position," but really it just goes to the guy with the gaudy point totals and plus/minus numbers who was also fortunate enough for play for a playoff team. Which is preposterous.


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It's been interesting to read how he's evolved into such a well-rounded defenceman this past year. I wish GMMG had found a way to hold onto him a few years ago but that's 20/20 hindsight. Glad to see he's been great for Buffalo.
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the Cunning Linguist wrote:
It's been interesting to read how he's evolved into such a well-rounded defenceman this past year. I wish GMMG had found a way to hold onto him a few years ago but that's 20/20 hindsight. Glad to see he's been great for Buffalo.


I think I had a real problem with his contract at the time due to the length but revisiting it now I think Regier did a good job. $4 million a year cap hit for a 50 point guy is really good value.

It's really front end loaded but assuming that Ernhoff retires rather than stick around for a million a year for the last 3 years it's an average $5.3 million per season. That's still excellent.

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the Cunning Linguist wrote:
It's been interesting to read how he's evolved into such a well-rounded defenceman this past year. I wish GMMG had found a way to hold onto him a few years ago but that's 20/20 hindsight. Glad to see he's been great for Buffalo.

How is that hindsight? 100% of Canuck fans solidly wanted to keep him and were very worried about the future of the power play without him. I'm sure the team wanted to keep him very badly, too. It was entirely the inability of the team to match a deal like that.

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It was a lot of money and years; no surprise the Canucks Ehrhoffed the side of caution.

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Jyrki21 wrote:
the Cunning Linguist wrote:
It's been interesting to read how he's evolved into such a well-rounded defenceman this past year. I wish GMMG had found a way to hold onto him a few years ago but that's 20/20 hindsight. Glad to see he's been great for Buffalo.

How is that hindsight? 100% of Canuck fans solidly wanted to keep him and were very worried about the future of the power play without him. I'm sure the team wanted to keep him very badly, too. It was entirely the inability of the team to match a deal like that.

I wanted to keep him but not at his asking price... I wasn't convinced he could be defensively-responsible as he is now either so paying that much didn't make sense to me.
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He's like Subban last year by the look of those splits.

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It was a lot of money and years; no surprise the Canucks Ehrhoffed the side of caution.


:lol: how did I miss that the first time

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